Curse

Warskull · Jul 10, 2006, 04:02 AM // 04:02

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W/Rt
16 Swordsmanship
13 Strength

Sever
Gash
Final Thrust
Consume Soul
Distracting Blow or Bull's Strike
Sprint or Rush
Frenzy
Rez Sig

This is a warrior I developed a long time ago. He will plug into a warrior slot in almost any HoH or GvG build. If you target yourself with consume soul the closest spirit within agro range dies. This character is a very strong counter to spirits. Implement him if you want a power play to destroy spirits, particularly for knocking a spirit spamming team off the altar in HoH or the Courtyard. You can usually completely shut down one spirit spammer while still functioning as a warrior and stop most spirits from multiple spammers.

Practice with consume soul a bit in scrimmages to get the feel for it.

Byron · Jul 10, 2006, 07:12 AM // 07:12

Sounds pretty nifty - but doesn't it work on allied spirits as well?

Spoony · Jul 10, 2006, 08:50 AM // 08:50

It says in the description, target touched spirit. So it can be any spirit.

On HA however, i prefer axes, so Furious Axe / Dismember + Executioners + Distracting Blow / Disruption Chop. Some people use hammers though - Hammer Bash ---> Mighty Blow ---> Irresistable Blow / Crushing Blow Or Hammer Bash ---> Staggering Blow --> Auspicious Blow or just whatever youd like, just try to make them take least energy, and they must not include an elite skill.

One thing that worries me, warriors suck in energy , so up to like 5 spirits, most skills must be adrenal than have an energy cost, for more effect, thats what i think. Thats why i suggest Rush over sprint.

kryshnysh · Jul 10, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

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Originally Posted by Spoony

One thing that worries me, warriors suck in energy , so up to like 5 spirits, most skills must be adrenal than have an energy cost, for more effect, thats what i think. Thats why i suggest Rush over sprint.

Final Thrust (and for that matter the Hammer Bash you mentioned) and Rush have horrible synergy. Frenzy -> Sever -> Gash -> Final Thrust -> Rush doesn't work as you won't have any adrenaline left after Final Thrust.

TheOneMephisto · Jul 10, 2006, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Spoony

One thing that worries me, warriors suck in energy , so up to like 5 spirits, most skills must be adrenal than have an energy cost, for more effect, thats what i think. Thats why i suggest Rush over sprint.

It shouldn't be that much of a problem. Warriors still have some regen, and spirits can only be put up so quickly. Also, with a zealous sword you can get a little more energy to use.

Warskull · Jul 10, 2006, 09:10 PM // 21:10

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Originally Posted by Byron

Sounds pretty nifty - but doesn't it work on allied spirits as well?

Yes, but if you are eating your own teams spirits a few things could have happened:

1) You ate all the enemy spirits and killed one of your own, no big deal. You most likely nullified a huge portion of their build in the process.

2) Your ritualist is out of position. As a warrior you are already into the enemy. This spell eats the closest spirit when you target it. If your teams spirits are consistently closer either play forward more or replace your spirit spammer because he is horribly out of position.

3) Your warrior is out of position or just plain stupid. He is either attacking poor targets or spamming the skill when the enemy isn't dropping spirits. Replace him.

The two main situations where you eat your own spirits should be avoided by even mediocre players. The first situation is the occassional 'oops' that isn't a big deal.

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It says in the description, target touched spirit. So it can be any spirit.

It can eat any spirit. However ignore the description on this one, it is completely wrong. It should be:

Consume Soul (Elite Spell): Touch anything, including yourself, and the nearest spirit within agro range dies. You are also healed for x...x health, but you don't really care.

It can be costly on energy, but it is worth it. Most teams that carry spirits, rely on them at some point. If you just casually erase the spirits within seconds of them being dropped all match you delt a huge blow to the enemy.

dare49devil · Jul 10, 2006, 10:54 PM // 22:54

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Originally Posted by Warskull

This is a warrior I developed a long time ago. He will plug into a warrior slot in almost any HoH or GvG build. If you target yourself with consume soul the closest spirit within agro range dies. This character is a very strong counter to spirits. Implement him if you want a power play to destroy spirits, particularly for knocking a spirit spamming team off the altar in HoH or the Courtyard. You can usually completely shut down one spirit spammer while still functioning as a warrior and stop most spirits from multiple spammers.

Practice with consume soul a bit in scrimmages to get the feel for it.

Very interesting, although, can I get the recharge, energy cost etc on Consume Soul? (Just got factions a while ago, didn't unlock rt stuff yet)

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Consume Soul (Elite Spell): Touch anything, including yourself, and the nearest spirit within agro range dies. You are also healed for x...x health, but you don't really care.

Ooo, funny. :P

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W/Rt
16 Swordsmanship
13 Strength

Sever
Gash
Final Thrust
Consume Soul
Distracting Blow or Bull's Strike
Sprint or Rush
Frenzy
Rez Sig

So CS is a elite? Well, w/e. And this build is actually fine. Rush > Frenzy > Sever > Gash > Final Thrust would be your "spike." Or. Rush > Bull's Strike > Frenzy > Sever > Gash > Final Thrust.

Or you can take Distracting for an interrupt. This would work better for a GvG build. As, you would swap things in and out to either play GvG or Tombs (or HA to newer people). In tombs people prefer sprint > rush only for Broken Tower or Relic matches. Rush is > sprint in GvG because it is a more rounded skill for that type of gameplay.

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On HA however, i prefer axes, so Furious Axe / Dismember + Executioners + Distracting Blow / Disruption Chop. Some people use hammers though - Hammer Bash ---> Mighty Blow ---> Irresistable Blow / Crushing Blow Or Hammer Bash ---> Staggering Blow --> Auspicious Blow or just whatever youd like, just try to make them take least energy, and they must not include an elite skill.

One thing that worries me, warriors suck in energy , so up to like 5 spirits, most skills must be adrenal than have an energy cost, for more effect, thats what i think. Thats why i suggest Rush over sprint.

Nonono, if you go axe in tombs, never take dismember...I see you wanted it for a deep wound, but it is a waste of a slot. You should run Eviscerate > Exec for an adren spike.

Usually when people run axe in tombs it is a w/e shock warrior based off Eviscerate and Shock, around one interrupt, sprint, a res sig, and your chosen attack skills.

TheOneMephisto · Jul 10, 2006, 11:48 PM // 23:48

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Originally Posted by dare49devil

Or you can take Distracting for an interrupt. This would work better for a GvG build. As, you would swap things in and out to either play GvG or Tombs (or HA to newer people). In tombs people prefer sprint > rush only for Broken Tower or Relic matches. Rush is > sprint in GvG because it is a more rounded skill for that type of gameplay.

Nonono, if you go axe in tombs, never take dismember...I see you wanted it for a deep wound, but it is a waste of a slot. You should run Eviscerate > Exec for an adren spike.

Usually when people run axe in tombs it is a w/e shock warrior based off Eviscerate and Shock, around one interrupt, sprint, a res sig, and your chosen attack skills.

Rush is not greater than sprint on a sword warrior. If you're using rush then after you use final thrust you're screwed if you get spiked.

Notice that the elite is already used. Eviscerate is an elite. 2+2=?

art_ · Jul 11, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33

Yup. Good build. Ive been thinking of running this for a while. Main problem is that many of the spirit teams oath their spirits and have rather a lot of them, so it might be a full time job this way. Coul just be easier to shut down the spirit spammer.

dare49devil · Jul 11, 2006, 01:57 AM // 01:57

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Notice that the elite is already used. Eviscerate is an elite. 2+2=?

I am talking about the guy who was talking about dismember. I was just saying if you used axe then you are prob gonna run shock, it was off topic from the first person's post. (therefore it isn't two elites)

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TheOneMephisto]Rush is not greater than sprint on a sword warrior. If you're using rush then after you use final thrust you're screwed if you get spiked.

Fair enough. I see you.

Lord Dark Genie · Jul 11, 2006, 09:04 AM // 09:04

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Originally Posted by art_

Yup. Good build. Ive been thinking of running this for a while. Main problem is that many of the spirit teams oath their spirits and have rather a lot of them, so it might be a full time job this way. Coul just be easier to shut down the spirit spammer.

Shutting down a spirit spammer can be hard depending on your team build... Most teams in HA tend to send a warrior on spirit duty, so might as well do it the fast way ^^

Ruben · Jul 19, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Great build, thanks for sharing.

scamPOR · Jul 19, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18

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Originally Posted by dare49devil

I am talking about the guy who was talking about dismember. I was just saying if you used axe then you are prob gonna run shock, it was off topic from the first person's post. (therefore it isn't two elites)

That guy was saying run Consume Soul on an axe so you already used your elite, ie no eviserate. Just to clarify.